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Request KDE 4.3.4

Posted: 5 December 2009, 15:00
by James
I would like to ask you, if we are planning make RPM packages for KDE 4.3.4.

KDE 4.3.4

for Mandriva 2010
for 32 bit CPU

homepage:
http://kde.org/

SRC download:
ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/4.3.4/src/

Thanks for answer ;)

Re: Request KDE 4.3.4

Posted: 5 December 2009, 19:15
by Pulfer
James wrote:I would like to ask you, if we are planning make RPM packages for KDE 4.3.4.
Yes, most likely we'll port it. But only after it gets some testing and patches in cooker. The chance of porting is ~90%, I guess.

Re: Request KDE 4.3.4

Posted: 5 December 2009, 23:44
by James
THX for answer. ;)

Re: Request KDE 4.3.4

Posted: 6 December 2009, 11:26
by aapgorilla
Pulfer wrote:
James wrote:I would like to ask you, if we are planning make RPM packages for KDE 4.3.4.
Yes, most likely we'll port it. But only after it gets some testing and patches in cooker. The chance of porting is ~90%, I guess.
Cooker already moved on to kde4.4 weeks ago...

Re: Request KDE 4.3.4

Posted: 6 December 2009, 12:40
by SymbianFlo
IMHO better whait 4.4 rc or a stable
and again IMHO 4.3.x will be obsoletd ASAP by 4.4 ( and here are a few important changes )....
PS:
Take a look here for a prewiev:
http://polishlinux.org/kde/kde-44-dev-whats-new/

Re: Request KDE 4.3.4

Posted: 6 December 2009, 13:36
by Pulfer
aapgorilla wrote:Cooker already moved on to kde4.4 weeks ago...
It's quite sad... Perhaps, we'd rather wait for 4.4.1 then.

Re: Request KDE 4.3.4

Posted: 6 December 2009, 19:39
by aapgorilla
4.3.4 has some nice plasma and kwin performance improvements/bugfixes compared to 4.3.2 and 4.4 is long from being finished (feb 2010 is the planned release..)

Re: Request KDE 4.3.4

Posted: 6 December 2009, 20:28
by Alejandro Nova
This is sad. I looked at the Mandriva changelog and saw that the maintainers were going to the route of cherry-picking bugfixes and backporting them at will into KDE 4.3.2. That says me that there won't be any major or minor update to KDE until 2010.1.

There is a bug in KDE microblogging plasmoid (not showing buddies' state in Twitter) that was fixed in KDE 4.3.3. Still no fix for Mandriva users.

So, I'm counting on you. Clearly this is a worse KDE update policy than Kubuntu.

Re: Request KDE 4.3.4

Posted: 6 December 2009, 21:19
by aapgorilla
I suggest opening bugs om the mandriva bugzilla and mentioning a fix is in kde 4.3.3.... :(

Re: Request KDE 4.3.4

Posted: 6 December 2009, 21:39
by NicCo
If I'm not wrong
now in Mandriva the main Kde packager is Neoclust (Nicolas Lecurreil), and he makes now the most development in kde area, in cooker

while brasilian guy (Helio Castro) who ported/backported in the past all kde version is not more in mandriva, and that was surely a big loss

Neoclust have so many things to do almost alone, so it's possible he has no time to backport new kde releases for existant official mandriva


bye

Re: Request KDE 4.3.4

Posted: 6 December 2009, 21:55
by aapgorilla
Maybe MIB could help Neoclust out a little...it would help us regular users out a lot

Re: Request KDE 4.3.4

Posted: 7 December 2009, 8:36
by Pulfer
Alejandro Nova wrote:This is sad. I looked at the Mandriva changelog and saw that the maintainers were going to the route of cherry-picking bugfixes and backporting them at will into KDE 4.3.2. That says me that there won't be any major or minor update to KDE until 2010.1.
Hmm... Ok, we'll try to port KDE 4.3.4. I agree that it's very important to port.

Re: Request KDE 4.3.4

Posted: 7 December 2009, 13:52
by SymbianFlo
aapgorilla wrote:Maybe MIB could help Neoclust out a little...it would help us regular users out a lot
hmmm and why not the opposite ?
neoclust could help MIB to do the porting .....why everybody think that mdv are the best and the others
are leftovers? Ok i'll offer my disponibility for MIB to do the build and if somebody from MDV whant to join us
is very welcome ....MDV aint no GOD m8 , you should know that .... :evil:

Re: Request KDE 4.3.4

Posted: 7 December 2009, 14:42
by NicCo
I fear if we start a port for Kde 4.3.4, after a few days mdv would port too, and this is a very well known story for me,

I don't wish waste one week or two for nothing..., perhaps the only good thing could be that our efforts would push or force mandriva to port too...

but in the end, I can only give my availability and my contribution, to Pulfer and others who want to join, if they intend to work to make the porting and to mantain it

Re: Request KDE 4.3.4

Posted: 7 December 2009, 20:54
by Alejandro Nova
NicCo wrote:I fear if we start a port for Kde 4.3.4, after a few days mdv would port too, and this is a very well known story for me,

I don't wish waste one week or two for nothing..., perhaps the only good thing could be that our efforts would push or force mandriva to port too...

but in the end, I can only give my availability and my contribution, to Pulfer and others who want to join, if they intend to work to make the porting and to mantain it
If you read the latest Mandriva Cooker mailing list posts, you'll see that the official stance of all the Mandriva KDE team is to stay at KDE 4.3.2, because, in their words, the overall quality of KDE is good enough and the QA efforts must be directed towards Cooker. So, a 4.3.4 official port, with all the QA that it needs, is out of consideration. Moreover; they won't go the route of shipping 4.3.4 without QA testing, so, you can, as MIB team, be sure, with a 99% of confidence, that there will not be, in the 2010.0 cycle, another update in the KDE 4.3 line. This policy change is also because the man who did the minor-release backports, Hélio Chissini de Castro, is not working anymore at Mandriva.

So, the only way for us, users, to have KDE 4.3.4, is a) to compile KDE by ourselves, or b) to rely in a third party repository, like yours (the traditional c) choice: downloading Cooker SRPMs and recompiling, is discarded because Cooker features KDE 4.4 beta 1). There won't be any second wasted in a MIB backport; this is an official decision of all the Mandriva KDE team, and there's nothing we can do about it. You can, however, bring us those tasty backports.