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How make a Mandriva 2011 remastering ?

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Congratulations from the Brazilian users community.

Forgive me if I'm asking in the wrong topic but I would like to know if the MIB-LiveToFlash tool is the appropriate tool to generate a remastering of Mandriva 2011, that is, to generate a new iso image with changes in distribution, ready to be used as LiveDVD or usb flash memoy.

Were the MIB-LiveToFlash used to generate the remastering of Mandriva 2011 with 3.0 Kernel (made ​​by MIB) ?

As Mandriva 2011 is using now an hybrid iso image, I don't know if there are a new way to make remasterings.

Is there any documentation or tutorial to use MIB-LiveToFlash or the right tool to remastering Mandriva 2011 iso ?

Thanks in advance for any help.

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Re: How make a Mandriva 2011 remastering ?

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No MIB LiveToFlash is not a remastering tool, documentation is pretty clear
http://mib.pianetalinux.org/mib/forum/v ... 531#p14301

2011 isos with 3.0.3 mib kernel, were prepared by Rosalab/Mandriva,
not by MIB, using their scripts in Rosalab

2011 format is different and we don't know how to modify LiveToFlash
to made it workable with 2011, at least for now
(the boot sequence is completely different in 2011 isos)

Rosalab promised to release docs to prepare community isos, we are
waiting for that

The first community isos were prepared by russian Edumandriva:
you can ask to them, what a way they used to prepare Lxde and Gnome


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Re: How make a Mandriva 2011 remastering ?

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pinho wrote:Congratulations from the Brazilian users community.

Forgive me if I'm asking in the wrong topic but I would like to know if the MIB-LiveToFlash tool is the appropriate tool to generate a remastering of Mandriva 2011, that is, to generate a new iso image with changes in distribution, ready to be used as LiveDVD or usb flash memoy.

Were the MIB-LiveToFlash used to generate the remastering of Mandriva 2011 with 3.0 Kernel (made ​​by MIB) ?

As Mandriva 2011 is using now an hybrid iso image, I don't know if there are a new way to make remasterings.

Is there any documentation or tutorial to use MIB-LiveToFlash or the right tool to remastering Mandriva 2011 iso ?

Thanks in advance for any help.
MIB-LiveToFlash tool does not need to create an ISO, but allows you to create a usb pen-drive. Unfortunately, the 2011 can not work because the structure of the new iso-released live are very different from previous versions.
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Re: How make a Mandriva 2011 remastering ?

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From what I read in

http://br-linux.org/2011/mageia-alfa-2/# comment-118285 (said by Eugeni Dodonov)

Mandriva 2011 is using livecd-tools and not draklive as before. This livecd-tools is used by Fedora and instructions for use cab be seen in

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_cr ... _a_Live_CD

It seems that is easier remastering Mandriva now than before. Someone can confirm the livecd-tools use and if there are any difference from Fedora's usage ?

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Re: How make a Mandriva 2011 remastering ?

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If I'm posting in wrong area please forgive me...
Currently I have installed on my mandy 2010.2-64bit the kernel 3.0.4 nrj version,I installed it with the help of Mr.NicCO and I'm glad of it!
My question is :if another version of the kernel will be availlable I will receive notice from system that there is another version of kernel availlble for me????How can upgrade to that version of kernel??
Thanks and Have a nice day!! ;)
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Re: How make a Mandriva 2011 remastering ?

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pretender wrote:My question is :if another version of the kernel will be availlable I will receive notice from system that there is another version of kernel availlble for me????How can upgrade to that version of kernel??
You can follow
http://kernel.org/
or
http://mib.pianetalinux.org/mib/forum/s ... ive_topics


kernel install is a voluntary move, it's a delicate update, better don't install kernels automatically
after a new kernel install you can't know if you could suffer some sideeffects, especially in drivers area (audio, video, wi-fi, ...)

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Re: How make a Mandriva 2011 remastering ?

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ooops..., I forgot

the mib /experts repo will contain last kernel and proprietary video drivers, so if you add and enable it,
when in future there will ship new ati/nvidia drivers, you could find inside also latest kernel from MIB too!

/experts repository is now empty as Mandriva has already in non-free all latest drivers, but that does not remain empty for long.. be sure!

and to update form a kernel to another, i think you need to install also metapackages like:
- kernel-nrj-desktop-devel-latest
- kernel-nrj-desktop-latest

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Re: How make a Mandriva 2011 remastering ?

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NicCo wrote: You can follow
http://kernel.org/ or http://mib.pianetalinux.org/mib/forum/s ... ive_topics
kernel install is a voluntary move, it's a delicate update, better don't install kernels automatically
after a new kernel install you can't know if you could suffer some sideeffects, especially in drivers area (audio, video, wi-fi, ...)
bye, NicCo
Aha,I understand senior NicCO...I thank you for your these explanations.
I honestly do not knowingly these...
Have a nice day !
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Re: How make a Mandriva 2011 remastering ?

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Each new kernel version, even minors, contains:
- fixes to avoid kernel ops
- fixed modified drivers

The most times fixes are really effective for everyone, but some rare times, you can have, for example

- kernel x.x.0 working for you nice at 100%

- kernel x.x.1 working for you nice but one audio or one wifi problem, because one modify that kernel team added, for 99.99% of people is good, for you or your hardware (0.01%) is not good:
these genre of things can be defined as you have one "regression", so you should use previous kernel version (for you 100% fine working) and it would better to comunicate your problem to kernel team developers

generally new kernels versions are better for 99.99% of people, fixing many problems and drivers, but some problems to someone can ever occurs...
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Re: How make a Mandriva 2011 remastering ?

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I read these explanations and help me to understand how kernel works.
They help me in the future.
Thanks again and Have a nice day !
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